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Posted by Liz58
Finally! Jews are seeing the light!
12/02/2011 at 07:48 AM I am happy to know that there are more conservative Jews! Yeay for Sally and all the people who were profiled in the article. Too bad that Beth really have no understanding nor appreciation of Judaism,- otherwise she would have been proud of the fellow Jews who have the balls to stand for the truth. Login to reply to this comment or post your own
Posted by BAKA
Natural
12/02/2011 at 12:30 PM The DNC they’ve worked so long and hard for has abandoned them while failing it’s own constituencies, which are now officially the bottom and top 1%...[literally, the country club members and their ball fetchers/servants]...while Obama is heckled by Occupy-ers as he solicits campaign donations from the top 1%..(note: occupy miami leader recently (nov 25) revived the “Go back to the oven” phrase). The working class spinal column of America is now the true underdog, officially abandoned for the 2012 election. The best thing CA voters can do is vote the Left out of Sacramento. It would be nice to decimate the moniker, “Left Coast”. http://hotair.com/archives/2011/11/29/obama-to-abandon-white-working-class/ http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203802204577066640654042360.html Login to reply to this comment or post your own
Posted by cmarie
Good comments
12/02/2011 at 01:53 PM Offering a different perspective - as a tea party member/activist, and nonJewish, I was so pleased to read the wonderful article which includes personal friends of mind who work tirelessly to make a positive difference! I am so sorry to see “Bethy” feels embarassed, but understand that is precisely what these wonderfully brilliant Jewish-Tea Partiers are fighting against. Being involved in the Jewish community all too often we see such stagnation when it comes to opening up hearts & minds to see what is really beneficial to people, and that is, of course, less government, more opportunities to use our God-given gifts & talents. Government doesn’t help people—people help people. It is proved time and again that people who know and love God reach out in greater numbers to lift up and support one another. Think about Katrina..who is there, still to this very day, helping rebuild..that’s right Christians and churches of other faiths. Their government did NOTHING to help! There’s something very positive in reconsidering your views on the principals behind the Tea Party movement. Login to reply to this comment or post your own
Posted by OY-YOY-YOY
Bravo Sally
12/02/2011 at 04:02 PM Limited government, individual liberty, fiscal responsibility, lower taxes and free markets… touché! These are the principles on which our beloved country was founded on, and pillars on which it stands today. As Jew, who immigrated from the Soviet Union, I can tell you what big government, redistribution of wealth, national health care, etc. will bring. No need to subject this great country to this ridicules experiment… I will tell you how it ends. I know, I lived it!! Moreover, how can any Jew that loves Israel support the current administration and its policies? Telling Bibi to go back to pre-1967 boarders, are you kidding me? Upshot, I was moved by this article. Tea Party-on. We need more people like Sally. Thanks you J Weekly for publishing it. Login to reply to this comment or post your own
Posted by TPgal
Embarrassed? Don't be.
12/02/2011 at 04:31 PM This comment exemplifies all that is wrong w/ the average Jew’s perception of conservatives, tea partiers and republicans. Statistics actually demonstrate that conservatives give more to charity (tzedakah) in terms of time and money than liberals. See Arthur Brooks. If you ever took the time to talk (not yell at) a conservative maybe you would know that conservatives just believe the private sector, that is private giving and faith based organizations, do a better job of feeding the hungry, helping the poor, providing opportunities for the downtrodden than the inefficient, corrupt programs run by the government. To wit, Bill Gates has done more to vaccinate the world’s children than the UN has accomplished in decadese and billions of dollars later. Yes, we all believe in paying taxes and providing a safety net for those who fall on hard times. But most of all, we believe in TRULY EMPOWERING people to take care of themselves, realize their potential without becoming a drone or slave of the government. You shouldn’t be embarrassed. We believe in healing the world, giving to others, doing to others as we would have done unto ourselves, living by the golden rule, etc…taking in the stranger, but we just don’t see the government as the solution to the problems and frankly, if you want to bring Jewish teaching into it, neither did G-d. G-d charged each one of us w/ living by the 10 commandments. G-d didn’t appoint a government to force us to do certain things. Prayer, repentance and charity will get one inscribed in the book of life, no? It is supposed to come from within each of us. We are supposed to take care of each other. Conservatives believe very strongly in that. WE don’t want a large, bossy gov’t telling us what to do all the time. We believe in the power of the individual to make good choices and live w/ the consequences of bad choices, always with the chance for improvement in one’s life, acceptance and lessons learned from our mistakes. If you are embarrassed it should be that you have such a limited understanding of conservatism and not only would write such a comment, but actually believe it. Login to reply to this comment or post your own
Posted by BHirsh
Astonishing, and refreshing
12/02/2011 at 04:39 PM This is the first information of its kind I’ve yet read or heard of, on the Internet or anywhere else, which tells us all we need to know about the MSM. Bethy, I’m sure you are a very nice lady, but your worldview reflects exactly the mindset that caused Jews to obediently go to the gulags and concentration camps likle mooing herd animals. Your belief in collectivism and central government control of and interference with people’s lives only contributes to the subjugation of the whole American population, not just Jews. Jews in America have, rightly or wrongly (and I believe that it’s rightly) been associated with Bolshevik immigrants whose culture in NYC spawned the traiterous Rosenbergs, and meddling retirees to South Florida, who bring their poisonous collectivism here and gnaw at our liberties like termite larvae in the woodwork. It is exhilirating to discover that 15% of American Jews have finally realized why G-d repeatedly admonished them for being “a stiff-necked people” and have seen the light. Having been raised as a conservative Jew in Pennsylvania, I deeply appreciate my people’s growing enlightenment, and I pray that it continues until all vestiges of that suicidal historical mindset have been excised from the Jewish body politic. Never again. For ANYBODY. Login to reply to this comment or post your own
Posted by dave
Why am I embarrassed by this?
12/02/2011 at 05:12 PM It seems impossible that Bethy read the same article I just read and came to the conclusion she did. There is nothing “un Jewish” about the conservative views expressed in the article. With all due respect to Bethy, my conclusion is that Bethy must reside somewhere deep in the asteroid belt. No way Bethy lives in the same world we do. Login to reply to this comment or post your own
Posted by Screaming Trumpet
Sally Has It Right
12/02/2011 at 09:48 PM My wife and I are proud to be part of the Marin Tea Party Movement under the leadership of Sally Zelikovsky. While neither my wife or I are of Jewish heritage, we are both Christians and fully understand how truly important we are to each other, given the current state of the politics around the world, and most recently, Our elected officials are turning their backs on Israel and openly portraying those who espouse the continuing ability of Israel to defend itself, as being evil land-grabbers who have wronged the Palestinians. I’m sorry, I don’t buy it and I don’t buy the argument that Israel is brand new and that only the Palestinians have a legitimate claim to the land which Israel curently occupies. As a Christians who were brought up reading both the Old and New Testimants, we both are aware that the Jewish peoples were part of that land from the beginning of recorded time. What the Tea Party stands for is a return to family values and the days of government giving us all a chance to aspire to be what we want to be, and the freedom to then go out and realize that dream. What the modern day Democratic Party stands for is nothing less than a collective of the masses who depend on government to provide for all of their needs by redistributing the wealth by literally taking it from those who have played by the rules and aclhieved their dreams, just to give it to those who have failed to even try to make something of themselves. I’m sorry, but that it wrong and and co-facilitating the masses to never realize and achieve their goals is an afront to our Creator, no matter an Orthodox Jew or a dedicated Christian. I have said that my belief is that there are only two really evil deeds and one is to stand in the way of one’s own spiritual growth and the other is to stand in the way of someone else’s spiritual growth. Looking to government to resolve all of our problems and take care of us, participate or not, is both of those wrapped into one. Sally, keep up the good work and we’ll keep supporting you in your quest to make things right. Login to reply to this comment or post your own
Posted by junglebobby
Real Jounalism
12/02/2011 at 09:55 PM Nice Journalism! Just when I thought journalism was dead—not so! Bethy is really quite representive of the typical liberal. I do hope she sees the commentary so far and decides to re-read the article—this time with an enquiring mind. Login to reply to this comment or post your own
Posted by IMright
Bravo To North Bay Jewish Tea Partiers
12/02/2011 at 10:34 PM Giving Bethy the benefit of the doubt, I decided she must be an ESL (English as a Second Language)student. She couldn’t possibly be fluent in English reading and conprehension and reach her conclusions.Either that or she only read the headline and not the article.Congratulations to Sally and the other Tea Party members for their belief in limited government, individual liberty,fiscal responsibility and lower taxes.If Bethy wants to be embarrassed let it be for the the large percentage of Jews who are not affilated with the Jewish Community and who allow the government to do all of their thinking as well as spend their money, educate their children, choose their doctors and their charities. Login to reply to this comment or post your own
Posted by cmarie
Reply-Screaming Trumpet
12/02/2011 at 10:52 PM What I find most pleasing is that we as a people are coming together just as our God wishes for His children. The news media kept telling us how awful the TeaParty movement was, racist, anti-Sem..etc., and here we, Jew and Christian standing side by side, loving one another to unite in fighting a cause bigger than us - to bring our Nation back to its founding - a Judeo Christian Nation. We have to stand together, and what better tool is there than the TeaParty movement! This article is wonderfully fair, and yes, Sally is an inspiration to us all. People have to wake up and realize there is too much at stake if we either close our minds to seeing other sides of the issue (as liberals do) or not wanting to get involved because its hard work and time consuming. I ask, what is the alternative? As “screaming trumpet” eluded to, they have read both the Old and New Testaments of God’s Word. I’d like to add something to that - from those of us that know how it ends - God honors His Word and at the end of a horrible battle Israel wins and God’s chosen land prevails. I’m chosing to be on the winners side - we have to support Israel. No matter how you believe or walk through this journey - God Wins. We’d do well to take a breathe of fresh air and see this disasterous administration for what it is. Thank you dear Lisa for opening my eyes, I’m honored to be a member of JRC. Login to reply to this comment or post your own
Posted by cindyc
Sally Has It Right
12/03/2011 at 08:44 AM Yes, I agree. Sally does has it right. I am a member of the San Francisco Tea Party and I see how hard she works. Keep up the great work Sally! I am behind you. Login to reply to this comment or post your own
Posted by Shelley
I am so proud of
12/03/2011 at 09:36 AM I am so proud of Sally. She has the right attitude, the passion, and the education to back what she says. I kn ow Sally and fully support her. I have members of my own family that are liberals. It isn’t easy to stand up for what you believe. It has a cost, but it is worth it when the other way doesn’t make sense. So I stand with Sally and support her. She is on the right track. Thank God we have her on our side! A Tea Partier with moxie! Login to reply to this comment or post your own
Posted by craven_maven
Why NOT Support the Tea Party?
12/03/2011 at 10:31 AM The Tea Party stands for: 1) a balanced budget
Posted by dekewelch@comcast.net
As a roman catholic father
12/03/2011 at 12:50 PM As a roman catholic father of ten children and an admirer of our elder brothers in the faith; as a conservative Republican and editor/publisher of a quarterly for Marin Republicans. I loved this article and have great respect for Sally Zelikovsky. Her energy, organizational skills, and patriotism are to be lauded. Login to reply to this comment or post your own
Posted by Tracy V
Congratulations Sally!
12/03/2011 at 05:50 PM Great job Sally on a fabulous article! As a non Jew who is a conservative, I appreciate the information and support that the Bay Area Patriots provides to individuals like myself. Because of people like Sally, we have an outlet for our voices to be heard; thus creating positive solutions in these harsh economic times. Conservatives care about our fellow human beings who love liberty and want to see jobs being created. Conservatives realize that creative people build jobs that last, and become a career, not our Government. Thanks you!
Posted by sally jean
>As a roman catholic (mo)ther
12/04/2011 at 12:01 PM >As a roman catholic (mo)ther Ditto Deke, wholeheartedly! Although I would add: The matter of abortion could’ve been better framed for clarity: BAP focuses less upon social issues and more on"TaxedEnoughAlready.” Still, abortion isn’t merely a “social” issue, but core to human existence, to family, and to what kind of a people we Americans are. The First Right front-and-centered by our leadership, the existence of our struggles would diminish—even resolve— exponentially. Login to reply to this comment or post your own
Posted by Theresa
"Has the Obama Administration Been Good for Israel?"
12/04/2011 at 12:52 PM On a related note: Sunday December 4 at 7:30 PM at Congregation Netivot Shalom in Berkeley (1316 University Avenue): “Has the Obama Administration Been Good for Israel?” “More than at anytime in recent years, some in the Jewish community are asking the question about how much support Israel has in the White House, and whether President Obama has helped or harmed Israel’s security. Whether you love, loathe or are ambivalent about the President’s approach, please join us for a vibrant and open panel discussion (including written and open mic audience Q&A) with 3 Bay Area activists who write and/or speak extensively about the Middle East. Participants are Mike Harris (grassroots activist with StandWithUs/SF Voice for Israel), Jon Segall (liberal pro-Israel blogger, founder of Team Shalom at DailyKos) and Mike Lumish (PhD in history, longtime pro-Israel blogger, and liberal critic of the left). The program will be moderated by Rachel Eryn Kalish.” Login to reply to this comment or post your own
Posted by Flayer
I read your comments but
12/06/2011 at 02:04 PM I read your comments but still do not understand why you are embarrassed. What or who exactly embarrasses you? Login to reply to this comment or post your own
Posted by M. Phillips
Proud of JWeekly
12/06/2011 at 05:55 PM Wonderful journalism. Finally JWeekly has recognized the thousands of Jews in the Bay Area who are conservative and especially the supporters of the Tea Party. Now Orthodox and Conservative Jews can feel that Jewish life in the Bay Area is not just a Lefty nightmare. Login to reply to this comment or post your own
Posted by kjfalk
Feh.
12/07/2011 at 11:30 AM I came away from reading this article wondering what country these Jewish Tea Party supporters have been living in for the last decade. Both major political parties support Israel, as always, current political troubles notwithstanding. Taxes are lower than they were in the 90s. Public spending has been cut way back (and boy are we feeling it). Regulation? Well, thanks to the lack of it, we’re still feeling the effects of the banking disaster, including lower home values. What really bothered me, though, was the checklist of Tea Party “values.” None of them seemed to include concern for those suffering from job loss, homelessness or worse. Between the lines, it seemed each and every person quoted was saying “I’ve got mine and I’m going to keep it. Who cares about the greater community? Not me!” Tikkun Olam in the Tea Party? Not so much. Login to reply to this comment or post your own
Posted by jonathanr
one reason
02/04/2012 at 10:10 AM It is the Tea Parties pro-Israel stance that has attracted Jews to their party and meanwhile at Tea Party rallies I continue see signs reading, this is a Christian nation. The Tea Party is a party of racists. Continue to drink the cool aid. Login to reply to this comment or post your ownLeave a Comment
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12/02/2011 at 12:15 AM
I am embarrassed for so many reasons…I expect Jews to know better than to actually support (much less believe in) people who and ideas that are so hurtful to so many people—much less hurtful to Jews!
What they are supporting is the complete antithesis of everything Judaism stands for.
Tzedakah? Forget it!
Tikkun Olam? Forget it!
Love thy neighbor as thyself? Forget it!
Let no one be harmed in my name? Forget it!
etc…etc…etc…
Yes, I am not responsible for how these people have chosen their actions…and yet I’m still embarrassed.
Login to reply to this comment or post your ownYes, it’s my problem.
*sigh*