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S.F. federation: We won’t fund anti-Israel programming

by dan pine, staff writer

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With a newly approved policy in place, the S.F.-based Jewish Community Federation hopes never to see another “Rachel” debacle — at least on its dime.

The federation board voted overwhelmingly Feb. 18 to pass new mandatory guidelines for agencies and organizations receiving federation allocations.

 

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Grounded in what its drafters call “core values,” the policy spells out uncrossable red lines regarding grantees’ Israel-related programming, as well as an enforcement mechanism to ensure that the federation will not support financially what it deems anti-Israel activity or expression.

 

Those core values include commitment to Israel, to the Jewish community and to respecting diversity within that community.

Under terms of the policy, the federation will not fund organizations that “through their mission, activities or partnerships endorse or promote anti-Semitism … actively seek to proselytize Jews away from Judaism; or advocate for, or endorse, undermining the legitimacy of Israel … including through participation in the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement.”

A clause was added to establish that co-sponsoring or co-presenting public programs on Middle East issues with “supporters of the BDS movement or others who undermine the legitimacy of the State of Israel” is not consistent with federation policy.

The guidelines also apply to grants from the federation’s Endowment Fund.

“This really is brand new,” said the federation’s acting CEO, Jennifer Gorovitz. “We are the first federation in the country to find itself needing to provide guideposts to ease anxieties on all sides of this issue.”

The full text of the policy can be read at sfjcf.wordpress.com/2010/02/18/policy.

Providing impetus for the policy was the San Francisco Jewish Film Festival’s July 25 and Aug. 4 screening of the documentary, “Rachel,” along with inviting BDS advocate Cindy Corrie to speak after the first screening, and the festival’s partnering with Jewish Voice for Peace and the American Friends Service Committee as co-presenters.

“Rachel” tells the story of Rachel Corrie, a fiercely anti-Israel American activist killed in Gaza in 2003.

The SFJFF incident sparked a firestorm of controversy within the Jewish community. At one end of the spectrum, ardent defenders of unlimited free speech stood by the film festival; at the other, pro-Israel activists directed their anger at the federation for providing funding to the festival.

In a letter to the community posted on the federation Web site, Gorovitz said, “Had the policy been in effect prior to the event accompanying the screening of the movie ‘Rachel,’ we believe these guideposts would have made clear that such an event and co-sponsorships fall outside the bounds of the JCF’s funding.”

Film festival president Dana Doron declined to speak with j. for this story, but said in a written statement, “We are studying the federation’s new policy and look forward to working with them to clarify the guidelines and their implications with regard to the festival’s programming.”

Some critics of the federation’s response to the “Rachel” incident last year praised the new policy. Said KGO talk show host John Rothmann, “I fully support the federation resolution. I am delighted that the community has united around the very principles we first articulated when the incident took place. All the substantive issues were addressed.”

Zvi Alon, an Israeli-born South Bay business executive and outspoken critic of the federation last year, read the new guidelines and approves of them, though with some reservations.

“The first reaction was very positive,” Alon said. “[But] the crux of the matter is the enforcement. I don’t think they have the will.”

To aid with enforcement, the new policy requires federation grantees to produce documentation demonstrating “consistency with JCF’s core values,” most pertinently an “abiding commitment to … the strong democratic Jewish State of Israel.”

If a given grantee does not have such a policy on the books, it must abide by the language in the federation resolution until it develops its own pro-Israel policy.

Any perceived violation by a grantee would first face review from federation executives and officers. If a violation is determined to have occurred, then JCF would “take appropriate steps,” including possibly suspending funds or sponsorship.

That “take appropriate steps” clause was deliberately ambiguous,  Gorovitz said.

“Every case is different,” she said. “In the law, tests of circumstances are often applied. The federation does not want to micromanage the behavior of grantees. We want them to use common sense and good judgment within the framework of these guidelines, and come to their own conclusions.”

Since last November, a federation working group has methodically drafted the new policy. Daniel Grossman and David Stierman co-chaired the group, which was composed of community members representing a wide spectrum of views.

The group further divided into two subcommittees, one writing the new policy, the other working directly with the S.F. Jewish Film Festival to reach consensus on avoiding future controversies.

Because discussions between the subcommittee and the film festival are ongoing, Gorovitz declined to comment about the progress of those talks.

Rabbi Doug Kahn, executive director of the S.F.-based Jewish Community Relations Council, joined the working group and helped craft the final language of the resolution. He says JCRC will have a role in preventing future controversies.

“We believe that institutions engaged in Israel programming are well served by developing policies,” he said. “The [resolution] strongly encourages that and expects a process to begin. It doesn’t set a deadline, recognizing it is something that can take time to get right.”

Over the past several weeks, members of the working group vetted resolution language with a variety of Jewish community leaders and federation stakeholders. They also tested the policy in a variety of hypothetical scenarios.

Gorovitz says the new policy ensures balance, artistic freedom and diversity of views. A variety of forums and arts settings is permissible, as is the expression of views critical of Israeli government policies.

But there is a limit.

“A forum that gives someone a platform for BDS or undermines the legitimacy of Israel is not OK,” Gorovitz says. “We’re not trying to squelch attitudes in the community. We want to ensure federation funding is used in a way consistent with its values of a secure and thriving State of Israel.”

That means the S.F. Jewish Film Festival would put its future federation funding in jeopardy if it were again to involve an organization like Jewish Voice for Peace, which supports BDS in certain cases, according to its Web site.

In the weeks ahead, federation representatives plan to meet one-on-one with grantees to explain the policy and answer questions. It’s part of an effort to “heal the community,” as Gorovitz puts it. “It was really important to us to get this right.”

For critics like Alon, the proof is in the pudding. Until the next “pudding” comes along, he says he has made the decision to withhold his annual JCF donation.

“I am very positive about the policy,” he said, “but to me, what was missing was a very clear enforcement component. I would not donate. I want to see what actually happens in reality.”

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Comments

Posted by SVLawyer
02/25/2010  at  03:20 PM
J Shows Its Pro-Federation Bias

While the new policy adopted by the Federation shows merit and potential, the J shows only editorial bias and enslavement to the Federation by providing a nearly one-sided report to a story which everyone in the community knows has many facets and complexities.  Most obvious of all is the fact the Federation would never have adopted any policy if so many donors had not shown their anger and disgust at the Federation’s initial mishandling of the Rachel screening by withholding a wealth in donations.  Unofficial reports are that the Federation’s current annual campaign is down by millions of dollars, and it is no small coincidence that the Federation’s Board adopted this new policy just a few days before Super Sunday.  Another angle the J leaves glaringly absent from this article, by dictate of its overlord the Federation, is how this policy would never have been adopted at all were it not for the heroic efforts of former Federation Board member Anat Pilovsky, who showed the courage and conviction to introduce an initial resolution that had the core elements of the current policy.  She resigned when the Federation Board rejected that proposal unanimously.  Now the Federation and its egotistical leaders want to take all the credit for the new policy, one again only adopted for economic considerations, but in reality this policy would never have been considered in the first place were it not for true leaders like Pilovsky and Zvi Alon.  Shame on the J for losing its journalistic freedom because of its enslavement to the Federation.  J - we know who butters your bread!

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Posted by oyvey2
02/25/2010  at  04:06 PM
Get your facts right

Dear SV lawyer.

You got your facts all screwed up.

The federation board meeting of Feb. 18 was scheduled close to a year ago. Just call the board secretary Lita and she can show you the list of dates that was sent to all the board members in mid-2009.

Two months ago federation asked its committee to come to the Feb. 18 meeting with a report on the Rachel controversy. That’s why the resolution was introduced and accepted on Feb. 18

As far as Super Sunday is concerned, federation didn’t have one a year ago. But federation in SF—like all federations nationwide— has seen a decrease in giving because of the economy. At the beginning of the year it was decided that Super Sunday should be held in a hurry before the campaign year ends and agency allocations had to be made. It’s totally coincidental Super Sunday came two days after the long-scheduled board meeting.

By the way, Anat resigned from the federation board. She was not pushed out. She did it on her own. She is no longer a stakeholder in the resolution or in any other federation board decisions. Was she a hero? No way. Natan Nestel wrote that resolution and asked her to bring it before the board. She was a delivery person at best.

Did federation see a decrease in giving because of the Rachel controversy? Yes, but a very small amount. Not anywhere close to $1 million. And who got hurt from that? All the agencies and schools and other organizations that do good for our community each and every day. That’s who was hurt.

So maybe you should get the facts straight before you invent conspiracies! I hope you do a better job as a lawyer than you did here.

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Posted by Jack Kessler
02/28/2010  at  10:06 PM
A bogus argument

Federation spokesmen often argue that if we don’t give money to Federation because of their funding anti-Israel causes, that “agencies and schools ... that do good for our community” will be hurt.  That is simply not true.  We can fund these things directly without going through Federation at all.

If Federation goes back to its reprehensible policies and unresponsive attitudes of the past, the response of the community will be to continue to donate to agencies and schools directly, JUST not through Federation.

If we see a repeat of the Jewish Film Festival outrage this year, let’s call their bluff.  Give to “agencies and schools” of your choice directly, not through Federation. 

The principle here is that the community owns the Federation, not the other way ‘round.

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Posted by SVLawyer
02/25/2010  at  05:37 PM
The Facts Speak For Themselves

Dear Oyvey2,

It’s a good thing you’re not a lawyer, and more likely a J-style journalist, because you fail to point-out a single fact in my initial comment that was not accurate. Instead, your post is merely an attempt to obfuscate the trust with distractions.

The mere fact that Federation Board meetings are scheduled a year in advance does not mean that the February 18 Board meeting was not singled-out in advance as the targeted meeting for approval of the new “pro-Israel” policy, just a few days ahead of Super Sunday.  Unofficial reports make very clear that the Federation’s primary motivation for undertaking and adopting the new policy was the fact that it was hemorrhaging from a loss of donor funds.  You may say it was the economy; I may say it was the Rachel debacle and the economy.  The simple fact of the matter is that the Rachel debacle and controversy surrounding it regarding the Federation provided donors with a very convenient (and, I would submit, a legitimate) reason to withhold their funds.  The Federation begrudgingly adopted the new policy only after a successful activist campaign was launched by numerous individuals including Pilovsky, Alon and Nestel.  However, the only one of these who paid a real price for her convictions was Pilovsky, who indeed resigned in protest to the way the Federation refused to consider the initial resolution, as I mentioned in my initial post.  And, by the way, just where are you getting your information that Nestel drafted the resolution?  It was published in a J ad prior to Pilovsky introducing it to the Federation Board.  Unofficial reports are that Alon paid for the J ad; not Nestel.  Isn’t that why the J keeps interviewing Alon and not Nestel?  And just who are you, oyvey2, to know so much about the underlying facts, while still being such a proud defender of the Federation and its agencies?  Might you be a representative of the Federation or one of its agencies? 

I stand by my recitation of the facts, and suggest that your post is merely an attempt to obfuscate the truth.  The J is a mouthpiece for the Federation, and until the J is independently funded and has an independent
Board of Directors (some of whom also currently sit on the Federation’s Board), the J will not have any editorial or journalistic freedom when it comes to matters involving the S.F. Federation or Bay Area Jewish community.  No amount of semantic obfuscation can refute this simple truth.

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Posted by oyvey2
02/25/2010  at  05:58 PM
RE: The Facts Speak For Themselves

Every organization in the community that gets any money from federation has at least one representative on the federation’s board of directors. And that representative has no voting power.  They are there only to observe.

Your defense of Anat is weak at best. If she wanted to have an influence in this community, she would have remained on the board. Remember, her resolution was voted down by EVERYONE. Not a single board member supported her. But she took her jacks and ran rather than fight for another day.

By the way, since when is it a shanda to defend the work of Jewish agencies who are educating our youth, helping people find jobs, taking care of the ill and infirm, etc etc? If you can support that, well then I’m wasting my time with you.

I believe the J quoted Zvi Alon because a) he probably paid for the ad (you say) and was considered to be one of the leaders of the movement and 2) decided to continue to withhold his contribution until he is satisfied that the resolution is being implemented.

By the way, if you quiz Natan Nestel he will tell you he sometimes works in the background and helps other leaders fight the fight. He and Zvi succeeded in getting the federation to examine this issue VERY closely and adopt this resolution. Let’s give credit where credit is due. Zvi and Natan deserve it as well as John Rothman,

Let me also add that if the J is in federation’s pocket,  why did the newspaper choose to quote Alon—someone who was negative about the resolution when they could have found lots of people who would praise it?

hmmmm. Maybe your facts are all screwed up. Didn’t I say that already?

Who am I? The lone ranger. Ok kimasabee?

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Posted by SVLawyer
02/25/2010  at  08:17 PM
Re: The Facts Speak For Themselves

To my knowledge, the Federation has over 80 beneficiary agencies—the J being only one of them.  YOU are the “lone ranger” because YOU are the only one who is wrong on the facts.  The Federation Board does not consist of 80+ “observing” members, and indeed the J has _two_ members of its Board on the Federation’s Board.  I challenge you to deny that at least one of these Board members does in fact have voting power on the Federation Board, so there is in fact an interlocking directorship.  So it is YOU, “long ranger,” who is misleading the public here and who is wrong on the facts.

With the respect to the J’s treatment of the Federation’s new policy, none of the facts I have stated are incorrect.  In my second comment, I identified Pilovsky, Alon and Nestel as all leaders of the movement to bring pressure to bear on the Federation to force the Federation to develop a policy to deal with incidents like the Rachel debacle.  Why the J quoted Alon is because without at least one critic in the story it would be obvious that the J is a captured publication, and the story would be boring and nothing more than a sheer advertisement.

And just what exactly is it that you have against Anat Pilovksy?  She had the courage to take the core essence of the current resolution and put it before the Federation Board three months ago.  The fact that everyone else on the Board voted that down without _any_ discsussion says more about the egos and the internal politics of the S.F. Jewish Federation than it says anything about Anat Pilovsky.  Have you never heard of a member of a Board resigning out of disgust for the misguided politics which the Board and the organization it purports to lead are undertaking?  That is why Pilovsky resigned, as the J reported at the time.  The J has left Pilovsky out of the story now only by dictate of the Federation which is now punishing her becaus so many people sympahthized with Pilovsky’s resignation that the Federation lost even more donations at the time.  Indeed, on the issue of resignations, it was the resignations of some of the board members of the S.F. Film Festival Board which began to give this story traction in the J almost nine months ago.  How quickly we forget.  Usually such resigning members are hailed as hero’s, as should be and is the case with Pilovsky.  Why you insist on singling her out for criticism is a mystery beyond the most likely possibility that I, as a submitter here, have criticized the J’s editorial bias in favor of the J, and you are actually an employee of the J who is doing nothing more than trying to criticize one person whom I have singled out for praise because the J has consciously decided to exclude her views from this story.  Like deserves like, right?  Even if one has nothing to do with the other. 

I know you, lone ranger.  You are indeed alone, because you are misguided, misleading and underhanded in your tactics.  You are also, most obviously, an employee of the J who has engaged in your furious, emotional stream of comments for no reason other than the fact that I have touched on a raw nerve—called the truth—and you will stop at nothing, including even deception and undignified criticism of a most dignified lady and hero—to try to undermine what are undeniable facts.  Yes, I have stated facts, and you have failed to refute a single one.  As noted, you have done nothing more than to obfuscate them.  Any intelligent reader will see straight through your game and realize that you are flat on your back in an emotional and baseless defense against the undeniable truth:  the J is a biased mouthpiece and podium for the Federation to propogate its self-serving advertisements because the Federation pays your (the J’s) bills.

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Posted by oyvey2
02/25/2010  at  08:58 PM
Re: The Facts Speak For Themselves

I am the lone ranger because I write here not representing any organization or j. I write here as someone who believes in the truth.

The idea that the federation controls j is laughable. Just ask any member of the federation board to see if they feel they have any control over j.

It makes no difference that federation board members sit on j’s board or any other agency board in the Bay Area. If you knew about Jewish life in the Bay Area, you’d know that board members tend to be on lots of board and they are recycled from one board to another. That means at any given time, there are bound to be federation voting members on every agency board.

Anyway there are better things to do in retirement than to spend any more time answering you. G’bye Mr. lawyer.

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Posted by Zvi_Alon
02/26/2010  at  02:13 PM
The real test for the Federation's will

I would say that we all need to unite on the next project that will test the federation’s will to implement the new all encompassing policy.

I would like to see the federation address in an open and honest approach the current ongoing situation at the Berkeley University Hillel

Get this story propagated

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Posted by Abraham Miller
02/26/2010  at  02:53 PM
Yes, a test for the Federation

Zvi Alon is right.  The next test for the Federation is Berkeley’s Hillel, a place that won’t even fly an Israeli flag, as most Hillel buildings do. Hillel partners with Students for Justice in Palestine.  That is crossing the red line.  And Hillel has made pro-Zionist students feel unwelcome, which is why people should contribute to Campus Chabad.  They have stepped into the breach. 

As for Anat Pilovsky, she was a real hero and instrumental in bringing this change about.  To characterize as a messenger is disgraceful. Sure she resigned.  People who agreed to support her viciously turned on her at the meeting, and the Federation brought in a lawyer to the meeting to intimidate and harass anyone who thought of discussing the meeting’s substance. NOW THAT IS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION FOR YOU, SHOWING THE SPIRIT AND SUBSTANCE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS AND ITS RESPONSIBILITIES TO THE REST OF US.  Yes, the economy is down and contributions are down across the board, but the SFJFF episode caused people who could afford to make contributions withhold them. The JFED has become the embodiment of Robert Michaels’, Iron Law of Oligarchy. Those of you who are supposed to be the leaders of our community should stop circling the wagons—as you always do in defense of the JFED—and start reforming the organization. The mentality you possess would have kept Nixon in the White House. Does it not occur to you that the need for a community organization to bring a lawyer to a meeting is a sign of its internal decay?

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Posted by oyvey2
02/26/2010  at  03:04 PM
Re: The Facts Speak For Themselves

Why was a lawyer at the federation board meeting. The answer is simple. The lawyer was there to remind board members that what happens in the board meetings is legally private to the board. Federation didn’t want to be working on a sensitive resolution while various board members were chatting about it without authorization to do so.

But you are right. Federation didn’t need a lawyer there. Half the people in the room were lawyers anyway smile

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Posted by Abraham Miller
02/26/2010  at  04:30 PM
The Lawyer at the Fed

I assume Oyvey2 jests.  The board is a community group, not functioning in executive session, and has Oyvey2 knows, had present people who were not members of the board.  Where was the expectation of privacy?  The lawyer was there to intimidate and harass. It is a bad statement, and it shows that the board desperately needs to be reformed, as indeed does the professional staff.  Can one imagine the community group of any other ethnic group having the SFJFF problem in the first place and then needing a whole series of meetings and committees and more than half a year to deal with it.  I assure you, if the African-American film festival showed Birth of a Nation, which it wouldn’t, it would take the African-American institutions all but twenty-four hours to put the matter right.  The JFED would probably need a year to figure out if Hillel should fly the American flag, and a team of lawyers to intimidate everyone not to discuss the proceedings. The JFED is a bad joke, and I am not smiling.  Neither should you.  It is tragic.

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Posted by oyvey2
02/26/2010  at  04:37 PM
RE: The Lawyer at the Fed

You are forgetting one VERY important fact.

When this controversy began, the federation was suddenly under new management. Jennifer Gorovitz did not have any previous experience as a head of a federation. She came from the Endowment side. And she’s a lawyer, which translates into be cautious and take things slowly.

I wonder why it’s necessary to criticize what federation didn’t do in seven months rather than reflect on what they did accomplish—the most thorough resolution of any federation in America. Did it take a long time? Yes. Was it worth it? Yes.

A little praise goes a long way.

And by the way, why bash the federation on Hillel? Go bash Hillel at Hillel.org
Hillel is a national organization.

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Posted by Bay Area Zionist
02/26/2010  at  05:33 PM
Anat Pilovsky's important contribution

Anat Pilovsky’s relentless efforts to move the Federation in the right direction, and the courageousness of her stand in resigning from the Board, make her a true Jewish hero in my book.  There can be no question but that the Federation’s new policy would not exist without Pilovsky’s prodding, and it is a shame that the J did not cover this part of the story in its article.

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Posted by SVLawyer
02/26/2010  at  05:41 PM
Re: The Lawyer at the Fed and Berkeley Hillel as a test case

No one is forgetting anything, oyvey2.  Gorovitz tookover in the _middle_ of the controversy after Sokatch resigned because the Federation had botched its handling of the Rachel debacle so plainly.  Gorovitz improved things in only one area—spin control.  In all other respects, she has continued down the same road of self-delusion.  The only reason the new policy exists is because of the pressure exerted by the community, as led by Alon, Pilovsky and Nestel.

And Messrs. Miller and Alon are not “bashing” the Federation “on Hillel.”  Once again, oyvey2, you attempt to obfuscate the truth.  Berkeley Hillel is a beneficiary agency of the SFJCF.  Indeed, in 2008-2009, it received five times the funding from the SFJCF than did the SF Jewish Film Festival.  And what thanks did the Bay Area Jewish Community get for that money?  In addition to the issues in the comments above, among other things, Berkeley Hillel made fun of an Orthodox couple’s wedding photo on a _Valentine’s_ Day Speed Friending invitation!  And last Passover, Berkeley Hillel’s walls bore signs that said “matzah sucks.”  These and other incidents at Berkeley Hillel are flagrant violations of the Federation’s new policy against anti-Israel, anti-Semitic events and activities.  So Berkeley Hillel is, indeed, a perfect test case for the new Fed policy.

As for the Fed sending in a lawyer to squelch free debate and open community speech about the policy discussion in the November Board meeting, who was the Board member that the lawyer was most precisely aimed at intimidating and harassing?  Anat Pilovsky—the director who was slated to present on that day the key resolution which, after some tweaking, details and conditionalizing, has now become the Federation’s new trumpeted policy.  So, yes, a little praise does indeed go a long way.  But that praise should be directed at Alon, Pilovsky and Nestel who led the charge to get the policy enacted, and without whose leadership this Federation would have never in a million years adopted such a policy.  But no praise is owed to a Federation that sends lawyers in to intimidate and harass its own.  It is indeed the sign of a decaying and decrepit organization.  And you are kidding yourself if you really think Gorovitz is calling the shots.  Ever heard of Jim Koshland?  John Goldman?  Richie Rich?

Hang it up, oyvey2, and maybe you _should_ quit the J and go into retirement or at least start getting ready for Shabbat; that is to say, please give it a rest.

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Posted by oyvey2
02/26/2010  at  05:51 PM
Re: The Lawyer at the Fed and Berkeley Hillel as a test case

How about I just go read the J. Gotta see what’s in this week’s issue besides the resolution article.

Do you really think I write well enough to get a job there? Thank you…maybe;)

Let’s all agree to disagree and meanwhile have a Shabbat Shalom y’all

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Posted by Oren
02/26/2010  at  06:05 PM
Would you please just shut it?

Tired of long diatribes from SV lawyer. Obviously not a lawyer with many billable hours.

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Posted by SVLawyer
02/26/2010  at  06:28 PM
Reply to Oren

Another hit man from the J or the Federation, huh?  Great menschlichkeit you display.  Glad you had the time to read my posts.  Nobody forced you to.

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Posted by jzh
02/26/2010  at  07:13 PM
diversity of opinions?

I’m concerned about a few things from this article.

First is the lack of more than one opinion presented. Why wasn’t someone from Jewish Voices for Peace quoted? Surely, they aren’t happy that that the JCF is censoring one side of the debate in the issue, by using their power of the purse. Since when are we opposed to a diversity of opinions?

Second, am I the only one who finds it ironic that that article ends with the quote, “but to me, what was missing was a very clear enforcement component. I would not donate. I want to see what actually happens in reality.”

Mr. Alon is critical of BDS, yet how is boycotting the JCF any better? Clearly, funds raised by the foundation go to needy causes in the Bay Area that have nothing to do with the Israel debate. So why penalize these organizations?

And just so someone says it - I think JCF’s new policy is sickening. Unconditional support for the Israeli governments’ actions is not a pre-requisite to be a part of our community.

What ever happened to 2 Jews, 3 opinions?

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Posted by Abraham Miller
02/26/2010  at  10:33 PM
Diversity of Opinion Indeed

It is a free country, Job, and there are plenty of forums for every opinion under the sun, but the Jewish community has no obligation to fund and promote anti-Semitism or anti-Zionism.  As for Jewish Voice for Peace, they do not support two states but a unitary state that would transform Israel into another Middle East political cesspool.I attended a forum in Walnut Creek hosted by such dispassionate and objective voices as Hatem Bazian and Amir Araim.  The Jewish position (ironically)  was represented by someone from JVP who was allegedly an expert an anti-Semitism.  She told us that anti-Semitism is not part of the Arab experience, a patent delusion, and when I asked her about the pogrom in Iraq known as the Farhud, she claimed she never heard of it. Either she is pathetically ignorant of her field or an egregious liar. There are numerous forums for the dissemination of this nonsense.  Let JVP use them.  But there is no obligation for the rest of us to fund these quislings. It is interesting how people like Job appeal to democratic ideals to promote policies that would transform Israel into a state that ultimately would be indistinguishable from the Hamas theocracy in Gaza or the military dictatorship of Egypt.

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Posted by jagged ben
02/27/2010  at  03:58 PM
Abraham, you mistate JVP's position.

Abraham, you mistate JVP’s position.  We have always been willing to support a two-state solution.  We have always condemned violence from all sides that delays negotiations.

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Posted by Jack Kessler
02/28/2010  at  10:22 PM
Excuse Me?

When there are demonstrations in front of the Israeli consulate, the police keep the demonstrators and the counter-demonstrators on opposite sides of the street.  JVP always picks the ARAB side of the street.  When they can’t weasel and obfuscate and have to pick a side, their true colors show.

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Posted by jagged ben
03/01/2010  at  06:55 PM
You're excused...

So?  Our stated position is still our stated position, so don’t mis-state what our stated position is.

And if you are accusing us of not joining with counter-demonstrators whose signs are often outright racist, we are not too concerned by such accusations.  I don’t think J street (which actively opposes BDS) would join with SF Voice for Israel either.  It is of course unfortunate that sometimes people are forced to pick between sides when they don’t necessarily want to.

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Posted by jewofconscience
02/27/2010  at  07:16 PM
shameful Federation policy

The Federation’s guidelines most certainly do not reflect “mutual respect and diversity within Jewish life.” One can come inside their “broad and inclusive tent” only if one holds their same perspective on Israel. And here I always thought we Jews welcomed debate. We’re talking about words and ideas here. Shame on the Federation!


The article states that JVP supports BDS in certain cases.

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Posted by Abraham Miller
02/28/2010  at  02:21 AM
JVP in its own words

By Mitchell Plitnick and Henri Picciotto

As activists in the movement for peace and justice in the Middle East, JVP members are often asked for our position on how the Palestine / Israel conflict should ultimately be solved. Our mission statement (http://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/publish/mission.shtml) endorses neither a one-state solution, nor a two-state solution.

SO definitely JVP does not support a two state solution, but since JVP argues for the return of three plus generations of Palestinian refugees the consequences are obvious. In addition, when JVP members meet with Students for Justice in Palestine, they (JVP)are less hesitant in talking about a democratic, secular state that would replace the Jewish State. JVP partners with the Presbyterians seeking Boycott Divestment and Sanctions and the SJP.  JVP played a leadership role in SJPs Occupation 101. SJP at Berkeley is probably the most viciously anti-Israel group on campus.

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Posted by jagged ben
03/01/2010  at  07:05 PM
That our mission statement does

That our mission statement does not support a two state solution does not mean that we would oppose such a solution if it were on the table.  In this respect, we are more in favor of a two-state solution than Likud.  Our position on refugess is that we are in favor of “A resolution of the Palestinian refugee problem consistent with international law and equity.”  That does not insist upon return.

Most of your comment is changing the subject.  Your statement about taking a leadership role in an SJP project is simply false (SJP is capable of leading themselves), but is typical of attempts to associate our politics with someone else’s positions.  There are places where JVP agrees with SJP and places where we don’t.  We can say the same thing about J Street.

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